Method stop · When and why do we use it?

Well-Ordering and Infinite Descent

In the Chinese book: 最小数原理与无穷递降法

Positive integers cannot shrink forever, so no solution can make a smaller one.

Before this stop, visit:The Second Principle of Induction (Method)

One idea, one picturePress “One step down” and watch q get smaller step by step. How does the number p² − 2q² underneath change? Where does the staircase stop, and why must it stop?

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In one sentence

The well-ordering principle: every non-empty set of positive integers has a smallest element.

Put another way, this is infinite descent: there is no infinite strictly decreasing sequence of positive integers . So to prove that something does not exist, you can:

  1. Assume it exists and attach a positive integer to it (a denominator , say); take the one for which this integer is smallest.
  2. From it, build another one whose attached integer is even smaller.
  3. This contradicts “smallest”. In other words, a staircase cannot go down forever.

The well-ordering principle and induction are two sides of the same coin. If is not true for every , take the smallest counterexample . Since holds, ; then holds but does not give , which contradicts the inductive step.

Example: √2 is irrational

Step 1 / 4
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  1. Assume a solution exists

    If (with positive integers), then . Among all such fractions, take the one with the smallest denominator .

Predict first

Apply the machine to . What is the next step?

Choose an answer first; then you can see the result.

Stop 1 · Irrational numbers: replace 2 by another d

The same machine works for any that is not a perfect square. Take and let

Expanding gives , and guarantees . So has no positive integer solution, and is irrational. Try setting to , or in the figure at the top of the page.

Stop 2 · Diophantine equations

The equation has no positive integer solution. This time the descending quantity is , and the tool for building a smaller solution is remainders.

Example: x² + y² = 3z²

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  1. Take the smallest solution

    Suppose there is a positive integer solution, and take the one with the smallest .

Stop 3 · The smallest counterexample

You do not always have to “build a smaller solution”. Sometimes it is enough to look hard at the smallest object: its properties give the answer by themselves.

Example: every integer greater than 1 has a prime factor

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  1. The set is not empty

    The divisors of that are greater than form a set. It contains at least itself, so it is not empty.

If d is a perfect square

Break it

Counterexample lab: remove one condition

Conclusion: has no positive integer solution

: start from (where ). Every step satisfies , and keeps getting smaller until it drops out of the positive integers.

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Practice

Exercise 1Basic

Start from and apply again and again. After how many steps does first become ?

Exercise 2Basic

Use infinite descent to prove that is irrational.

Exercise 3Advanced

Prove that the equation has no positive integer solution.

Exercise 4Challenge

(IMO 1988) Positive integers are such that divides . One can prove that the quotient is always a perfect square. First compute for , then try to explain why using descent.

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Exhibit

Descending where there is no smallest element

The wrong step: Proof that has no solution in positive rationals: if is a solution, then so is , and it is smaller. This can go on getting smaller forever, a contradiction.
What went wrong? Think first, then open

Diagnosis is obviously a solution. The mistake: “getting smaller forever” is no contradiction at all among the positive rationals, since is an infinite decreasing sequence of positive rationals. The well-ordering principle only holds for the positive integers (or any set of integers that is bounded below).

The right step: The quantity that descends must be a positive integer (or a non-negative integer): a denominator , the value of one variable, , and so on. First make sure that the descending quantity takes positive integer values; only then say “it cannot keep getting smaller forever”.

“Descent needs positive integers, so that there is a floor”